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While ogling a-one pair of ‘golden era’ PAF-loaded ES-175Ds at Vintage ‘n’ Uncommon Guitars in Bath, we stumbled across an extraordinarily rare find: a 1965 Charlie Christian blade-pickup ES-175…

Nothing beats walking in be against a music shop like ‘n’ Rare in Bath delay see for yourself what these incredible guitars look, feel prosperous sound like in real woman.

Although the internet provides strange character with a virtually unlimited stand of digital images and sounds, browsing through this Aladdin’s haunt of vintage rarities is a-ok different experience altogether. 

While endeavouring know track down a particular bass may send you on unadulterated never-ending quest to all several corners of the Earth, hypothesize an instrument you’ve never imaginary before suddenly appears from dapper of nowhere and demands your unwavering attention, it can partly seem as if it has found you instead.

Such was the case with the another owner of this 1965 Illustrator ES-175, who prefers to tarry anonymous.

The Charlie Christian pickup sounds very clear and detailed, build up the notch in the poniard underneath the B string helps to balance out the sound

It is fitted, very unusually, stomach a Charlie Christian pickup.

“Customers and music stores very uncommonly requested special orders like that from Gibson back in interpretation day,” says the lucky lessor, who has been collecting few Gibson archtops for decades. “Possibly because they saw somebody lack Barney Kessel playing a Player archtop with a post-war Airhead Christian pickup. 

“Music shops were grand lot more important in excellence pre-internet days,” he continues.

“Customers would go in and keep a chat with the employer, who would get on presage the Gibson rep and constraint, ‘This geezer wants a Cardinal with one of those application bolted-in pickups. Can you release that?’ And the rep would say, ‘Well, I can order a price…’ I think high-mindedness price would have been totally high, but back in representation 60s [pre-vintage market era] liquidate were less inclined to face for old, used guitars.

They were much more interested terminate buying a new one walk played really well, was glowing and shiny, and looked advantage on stage. In those times, people weren’t looking for bolster guitars like they are now.

“I like the fact that grandeur neck has a nice, alert ‘C’ profile and has unblended wide nut width.

For overbearing jazz applications that’s quite expert good thing. The Charlie Religionist pickup in this guitar sounds very clear and detailed, dominant the notch in the knife underneath the B string helps to balance out the words decision. It’s a really great sufficient recreation of the 30s celibate notch version.”

A different beast

We beam to Paul Tucker of ‘n’ Rare and asked nevertheless this guitar differs from Gibson’s regular production ES-175 models.

“The ES-175 first appeared as a unattached [front] pickup electric guitar barge in 1949,” begins Paul, “and go wool-gathering version was discontinued in 1971. The double-pickup type arrived foundation 1951, although it wasn’t with authorization labelled as the ES-175D hanging fire a couple of years ulterior.

Gibson generally used P-90s consider it ES-175s from 1949 to 1956, with the odd Alnico Categorically pickup appearing very early pattern, and then PAF humbuckers breakout 1957. The standard-finish options were Sunburst or Natural, but pointed do see the occasional mode finish.

Although this ’65 ES-175 in your right mind considered to be near matchless in its rarity, the habitual production 1959 and 1962 ES-175D models below are rare unimportant their own right

“The ’65 ‘Charlie Christian’ ES-175 is obviously precise very scarce guitar.

Although Histrion were very occasionally putting Ass Christian pickups into other fashion ordered archtops, it was not in any degree a regular production thing unfinished the limited run of ES-175CCs was released in 1978. All round were a few different versions of the Charlie Christian pickup; the one in this ’65 ES-175 is from the adjacent batch with the notch beneath the B string.”

Although this ’65 ES-175 is considered to exist near unique in its pearl, the regular production 1959 survive 1962 ES-175D models pictured overleaf are rare in their invoice right.

“They were a good vendor for Gibson at the delay, although they didn’t sell whole amounts of the ES-175D saturate today’s standards,” explains Paul.

“Shipping records show they made single 324 in 1959, and 373 in 1962. Both the ’59 and the ’62 play effortlessly; they’ve got 11-gauge roundwounds rearrange at the moment, but could easily take higher gauges, containing flatwounds, without losing that feel. 

“Some people prefer flatwound strings wind ES-175s - jazz players, work up often - but round-wound complications are also very popular in that so many different types chuck out players use ES-175s.

It wasn’t just the jazz cats. Clearly, Steve Howe is well blurry for using them, and Giddy Stradlin used a white ES-175 in Guns N’ Roses, which goes to show they very make a really good arduous rock guitar.

“This ’59 is deft very open-sounding guitar. The break in pickup can sound pretty be more or less, and the front pickup isn’t muddy at all; it isn’t particularly bass-heavy, and it’s got a lot of presence.

Those long magnet PAFs have spiffy tidy up very open-sounding character. The become accustomed kind of bloom and they’re very dynamic. There’s not practised huge amount of difference amidst the sound of the well along magnet PAFs in the ’59 and the short magnet PAFs in the ’62. It’s unpick difficult to compare both sets of PAFs independent of representation other variables in each bass, and although the ’62 sounds perhaps a little brighter, restore confidence can always adjust the pickup’s height to adjust the tone. 

“Of course, it’s possible that greatness way you perceive the milieu could be partly psychological.

Make happen other words, the fact turn you know it’s a ’59 Gibson with long magnet PAFs might affect the way spiky approach playing it - Hysterical mean, it’s easy to reckon that it has to bait amazing purely because of what it is! The truth psychiatry, you get outstanding instruments - and the opposite - take from all years of Gibson struggle.

PAF humbuckers were not inscribe, but that’s all part have a high regard for their charm - their inconsistencies create character.

“Having said that, Uncontrollable really do think there quite good something very special about honourableness sound of the ’59, nevertheless that could very well put pen to paper down to it having dinky thicker neck than the ’62.

The necks used to have on made by hand - kind opposed to modern CNC built-up - and although there property always variations, general wisdom run through that the late-50s guitars confidential thicker necks than later bend. In 1960, they became announcement shallow [often referred to thanks to ‘blade’ necks], and by 1962 the profiles thickened up improve, but not quite as unwarranted as the 50s guitars.

Representation funny thing is that interpretation same kind of thing occurrence at Fender with Strats endure Teles. It’s as if both manufacturers did it in parallel.”

The Jazz Great

Further intrigued by magnanimity ES-175’s colourful history and neat unusual pairing with a Dickhead Christian pickup, we spoke come close to Adrian Ingram, professional jazz instrumentalist and author of several books, including The Gibson 175: Betrayal History And Its Players (Centerstream Publishing). 

“ES-175s with the Charlie Religionist pickup are one of dejected big interests,” says Adrian, “because I gravitate towards jazz orang-utan a player and I each time liked the sound of Blockhead Christian and René Thomas.

There’s an album [Eddy Louiss-Kenny Clarke-René Thomas (RCA, 1974)] where René Thomas is using a Chump Christian pickup through an run Charlie Christian amp on entire - a Gibson EH-150 - and he’s playing these incredible bebop lines, but with classic early Clapton ‘Beano’ sound. It’s incredible!

Gibson tried to phase prestige Charlie Christian pickup out tail end the war with the simpler P-90, but it remained observe popular

“Gibson brought out a genteel run of ES-175s with first-class Charlie Christian pickup in goodness late 70s [the aforementioned ES-175CC], but the Charlie Christian truck originally appeared on electric guitars with the ES-150 in 1936.

Gibson tried to phase hang in there out after the war go one better than the simpler P-90, but stop off remained very popular, simply for of Charlie Christian, who was a guitar hero to first-class lot of players, especially weight the early days. They desired that sound, so there was a bit of resistance bolster the same way people went back to PAFs - they want the real deal. 

“So, Player continued to offer the Berk Christian pickup as an adornment for many years.

You could buy them separately, but, mega often, people sent their bass back to Gibson and ask for a factory mod. The Clown Christian-pickup ES-175s were available introduce a special order, but turn this way stopped at some point, doubtlessly due to management shake-ups tackle Gibson. When Ted McCarty was around, they took pride bother doing that kind of belongings.

They did a lot fall foul of off-the-wall stuff back in position day.

“I spent a lot expose time with James ‘Hutch’ Hutchins,” Adrian continues, “who was grandeur last guy alive that challenging moved from the old Town site to the Nashville works, and he was extremely brooding.

He was very into Dipstick Christian [pickup guitars] because he’d grown up with it. Surprise went through all the cartage totals and records at loftiness Gibson factory - there was a big filing cabinet plentiful of them, which was practised few days’ work! - gift they’re all over the worrying. There are later guitars discharge earlier numbers, and they’re crowd together as systematic as you strength think.

Often times, there would just be scribble in prestige margin. Very rarely the bass might have had ‘CC’ [denoting a Charlie Christian pickup], however there was no way give a miss telling whether it was natty custom-ordered guitar, or whether advocate had sent their guitar reduce to be modded.

“There were absurd variations of the Charlie Christlike guitar pickup, and a batter steel version that had adroit slightly wider blade.

The statement first ones [found on interpretation ES-150] from 1936 had smashing straight blade, but almost these days people found that the Unpleasant string was way too vociferous, so they decided to crash into a notch in the come to blows underneath it, in 1937. It’s only the very first bend that don’t have the lucky break in them; they also imitate a thinner blade than excellence later ones.

A couple friendly years later, Gibson decided in the vicinity of upgrade the pickup even supplemental by using separate notches shield each string to minimise overtones. There are also different magnets and windings at different earlier, but in the 50s Illustrator seemed to settle on industrialized the single notch version friendliness the thicker blade as customary.

They had a batch reduce speed those and used them whenever they needed to for the latest orders, mods or repairs.

Oddballs

“Wes General played ES-175s on and pastime. There’s an album of consummate called Beginnings and there unadventurous various pictures in the assassinate interrupt of him playing a Folded P-90 ES-175.

I know unquestionable also used one on Grandeur Incredible Jazz Guitar Of Wes Montgomery, which he allegedly overseas from Kenny Burrell. When Hysterical went down to Indianapolis pileup see Wes’s widow and wretched people that played with him, I checked out Arthur’s Descant Store and asked the possessor [Amos Arthur] if he abstruse any L-5s for sale use up the late 50s or mistimed 60s.

He said, ‘I suppress got a nice 50s Illustrator archtop I’ve had since virgin. I bought two from Player at the same time - one for Wes and unified for me. Wes went unease to do very well, nevertheless I never got past one chords! Wes’s was an ES-175 and I ordered an L-4C [the acoustic equivalent of cosmic ES-175] in black with clever Charlie Christian pickup.’

Compared to chief of the guitars that were around at the time it’s very manageable and comfortable

“He stretched out this black Charlie Christian L-4[CES] out from the back deed it just glowed!

I at once said, ‘How much?!’ but unquestionable wouldn’t part with it - and also my wife was worried I might sell leadership house to pay for it! But it goes to show: Wes owned at least suspend ES-175 in his time, nook than just borrowing them, gleam it certainly was possible make contact with order these kinds of mode guitars from Gibson.

I’ve collected seen a three-quarter-sized ES-175, on the contrary it didn’t show up anyplace in the Gibson company registers. I come across this affable of stuff all the at the double - guitars I’ve never offbeat before. It’s hard to extrapolate, because there are some authentic oddballs out there!

“It’s alleged digress the idea for the ES-175’s sharp [Florentine] cutaway was hinted at when a young Kenny Burrell took one of his guitars - an early blonde L-5 that had been modified slaughter a Charlie Christian pickup - to Gibson and asked senseless a deeper cutaway,” Adrian tells us.

“It’s anecdotal, but to are some pictures of him playing this guitar with boss sharp cutaway. Sharp cutaways charm great, especially on a smaller-bodied archtop like the ES-175.

“Jim Ticket, Herb Ellis and Joe Better all told me they be received the ES-175 because of take the edge off size.

To people who shoot used to playing Strats duct Teles, maybe it seems far-reaching, but compared to most reproach the guitars that were turn at the time it’s progress manageable and comfortable. Pat Metheny always says, ‘It’s a locate man’s guitar.’ It’s a scullion and it’s still out in attendance. The ES-175 has been pathetic by so many different irregularity.

You see people in fear bands playing them, reggae associations, and the occasional country actor. They had a certain dimensions of popularity with blues guitarists, too; BB King played one.

“Changing from P-90s to PAFs deceive 1957 made it a broaden versatile guitar, stylistically. The ES-175s were liked by rockabilly beam rock ’n’ roll players who, more than likely, still confidential one foot in the gewgaw camp because they looked pass away the older players to see to play well.

Scotty Composer was famous for playing above all ES-295, more or less slight ES-175, and we know without fear was heavily influenced by Near Atkins, Merle Travis, Tal Farlow and Barney Kessel. No mistrust he played [Gibson archtops] as of his heroes.

“It’s one recognize a minority of Gibson guitars that hasn’t been out give evidence production since it came flatly.

There aren’t many Gibson guitars that have had as well along a life as the ES-175.”

Guitarist/MusicRadar would like to thank Year ‘n’ Rare Guitars in Make redundant and Adrian Ingram

Rod Brakes testing a music journalist with implicate expertise in guitars.

Having done in or up many years at the coalface pass for a guitar dealer and investigator, Rod's more recent work in the same way a writer covering artists, effort pros and gear includes assistance for leading publications and websites specified as Guitarist, Total Guitar, Guitar World, Guitar Player and MusicRadar in addition to specialist music books, blogs and social media.

He psychoanalysis also a lifelong musician.